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Date: November 26, 2022
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I am sorry for your loss. It it a good idea to stay with your parents for a while and process what happened. I don't know that I could feel comfortable around this dog anymore or be around and not forget what it did.
You say that I am being arbitrary in how I decide what is okay or what isn't (which I am, these things are usually thought from each person perspective and experience, unless you are doing a proper psychology essay on the topic) but you yourself understand that small age diffrences are huge when talking about minors. You even give a completely arbitrary description of which thing do you see as okay for a 14yo. You assume that it isn't creepy to acknowledge a kid that age would be likely exploring themselves.So accusing me of being illogical and an hyprocrite when you insinuate that saying that teens can consent among teens is the same as “so can a 7yo consent too ???” is wild. If a 18yo is completely different mentally and emotionally from a 14yo (which I agree, my whole point is that 4 years is a huge age difference between ppl younger than 20,hence why a 14 could be having experiences with her peers but a 10yo absolutely shouldn't) imagine comparing a 7 yo and a teenager. Those kids would be in completely different stages in terms of development, any education or psychiatric professional would agree with that.
Your whole thing is calling me creepy, assuming I am saying that 13yo is a fine age for full on sex as much as adulthood is. Being incapable of discussing the topic without resorting to borderline calling me something awful just because I don't see the point of discussing teenage sexuality in the same way one would discuss child abuse against children younger than 13. There is a difference between thinking a experience is happening too soon or is unhealthy and that it is rape. Legally, you would be wrong in nearly all places, due to romeo and juliet laws. Ignoring law, since, I agree, it is not a definitive on morality (my country consent law is an example of that), you assume that the girl is a victim and not the villain, without even knowing her backstory and that was a case involving a 10 year old child. So how exactly do you describe teenagers doing anything? Since they can't consent among each other, when there is not element of lack of will from neither part, who is the abuser? Who should be punished? What punishement would that be? Because your view of consent is “a complete understanding of sex and it's consequences”, something that many late teens and young adults don't have either, something you don't really have when you aren't sexually active or sometimes not even after you are. But consent is defined as being capable of agreeing to sex in most interpretations, and the lack of consent from one part implicates someone is being raped. COCSA is also called abuse for a reason. And saying that someone can't consent to sex, obviously mean they should refrain from having any kind of sexual experience, including, but not limited to sex,since the other part would be abusing them. Then you are saying young teens can't have sex, that would translate to preaching abstinence to most teenagers.
And when you say that anger isn't the response of ALL survivors, that's true. But your experience and that from people who can empathize with their abuser is not ALL survivors experience either. Many people feel anger and hate and don't to want to think about much of a shitty life their abuser had. Acting like everybody should be understanding and forgiving in such situations is moralizing on survivors,it is toxic positivity. And sometimes, which I do not think it is the case with this girl, people are just fucking cruel and sick and like to harm others.There is nothing deeper or philosophical to understand and there is nothing to forgive, since they aren't sorry. Abused people don't own anyone forgiviness or consideration, not matter what was the abuser background
I do not have any interest is talking to someone who will keep calling me creepy for speaking stuff that relevant law and literature don't disagree with. Then saying that I am a “red flag” for pointing inconsistencies in ther arguement (you say that teens can't consent but then says they can do some sexual stuff, then says that you aren't preaching abstinence to teens but also it is immoral for them to have sex,then says that there is a big difference between early and late teens but compares a 14 yo to a 7yo). You use a lot of therapy speak to imply that the person you are talking to think the way they think because they are shady and not just because they have a different perspective and that is just so lame.I have better shit to do. You can keep going on calling anyone who thinks two 14yos having a consensual sexual relationship aren't raping each other a creep.