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  1. You both need to work on yourselves before either of you consider getting married. Instead of cheating, call off this toxic relationship and go out and do what other young people your age do: date, hang out with friends, and develop your own sense of self and identity instead of trying to get a sense of fulfillment out of a bad relationship / marriage.

    The point of a relationship is what you put into it, not what you get out of it, but you haven’t even listed a single good thing that you get out of it.

  2. He fell in love with another woman while still dating his poor ex and then immediately got together with her. That is textbook emotional cheating.

  3. I would leave it this was happening to me. I’d also ask her if she actually thinks your a pedophile then how can she morally still be with one ? That should drive the point home that’s she’s being ridiculous.

  4. We live! far away, it's a 4h train ride and it would require going to my father's home which i dont really feel like doing.. For us to meet up, he should like answer me so we set a date, but he just won't… I just don't see how this could turn out in a positive way

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  6. Yikes… seen this a few times. I wouldn’t allow this behavior any further if I were you. If he can’t stop himself then it’s going to ruin the relationship for sure. Dude needs to think about flowers or something nice when he starts thinking about you with other partners.

  7. Yikes… seen this a few times. I wouldn’t allow this behavior any further if I were you. If he can’t stop himself then it’s going to ruin the relationship for sure. Dude needs to think about flowers or something nice when he starts thinking about you with other partners.

  8. I had actually told him calmly that I didn't like when he said this before. Then a couple of months went by and he said it again. And this time I got emotional and tried to tell him why I didn't like it. Tried to explain why and I started crying, it was making me emotional talking about it. He doesn't seem to understand why saying such a thing would make me upset. And this is what I don't understand… I don't get it….

  9. Canon or not, the Catholic Church has for centuries now gotten into some creepy shit. Most famously pedophiles among the clergy, but there's plenty more.

    And I'm not saying this particular Catholic Church is to blame in this case, but we cannot rule it out, it could've also been another person at the retreat, or the retreat gave her enough time on her own to conclude she wanted to open up the relationship.

    Either way, it's hard to believe that the retreat didn't in some way play a (major) part here.

  10. Tell her you know everything about the affair and that you are devastated she would lie and manipulate you like that and tell her to never contact you again.

  11. I don't believe your story at all. You were drunk too, idk what work you were doing on your phone and your girlfriend wakes up sore and injured THEN you lie to her about what what you say happened. The story you tell her isn't what you stated in the title and not what you narrated.

    Even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt that your girlfriend was a raging, angry alcoholic, you could have left at any time. You don't claim to be abused but seem to do a lot of damage “defending” yourself.

    At the very least you two are toxic together but I'm leaning towards you abusing your girlfriend.

  12. yea sure, that’s not what we’re talking about. we’re talking about purposely withholding information that your partner would definitely want you to tell him/her. practically the same as cheating. it’s not about the action but about knowing you should tell someone but choosing not to just bc you’re scared of the consequences

  13. You should actually confront him in a professional manner and tell him it’s not appropriate behaviour as 1, he’s your boss/senior and 2, you’re married you creepy piece of shit. Stay well clear of that situation, or it’ll blow up in your face.

  14. There’s an live! paper called, Jealousy and the Abyss, by William Pennell Rock. Last i checked it was on planet waves.net.

    It’s long (13 pages printed out) and deep af. So much so that it took me a year of study and a few marked up copies to really internalize it, and it was worth the effort.

    I’ve never felt jealousy since, and I’ll never feel it again.

    You can be liberated from this pain if you’re willing to do the work.

  15. Communication 🙂

    If you haven’t already, talk honestly about your upbringing and this history. Be honest when she says she knows you’re judging her for it – say you are, but you’re trying not to, and you want to work on it.

    It takes time to break old habits, and maybe there are compromises that you can reach where you can find a way to meet both of your comfort levels. Like maybe you can find things that make you only sliiiggghtly uncomfortable and start there.

    Also it’s worth keeping in mind that if she’s doing huge farts, or lots of them, she might have a medical issue or food intolerance that she hasn’t identified yet. Farts aren’t always something everyone can control 🙁

  16. I don’t think it freaked him out, after a bit of time apart we started having sex again, and he just got more affectionate and attached. He’s the one who started calling me baby, gave me his sweater to keep, started kissing me goodnight, and basically told me he doesn’t want either of us dating or sleeping with other people.

  17. I’ve seen entire families enable affairs, complete with coordinating lies. Meeting the family does not guarantee he isn’t cheating

  18. I’m scared because if he says no then my life is over. I can only feel again because of him. He saved me and I need him more than anything in the world

  19. You don't need his permission to leave. Divorce him and live! your best life, OP. You deserve to be happy.

  20. Please keep your traditional Christian values and live! a wonderful and fun life. Those are not mutually exclusive as some people seem to think. And equality and respect are the cornerstones to a great relationship. You'll certainly find that if you keep looking for it, and make it clear right from the beginning that you need that as a boundary and condition for a relationship leading to marriage.

    You current bf does seem to think that being a man means controlling you. I think he may be the type to use that past as a means of control over you. And he may look for other things and ways to control you as well. Love = respect. Please look for a guy who respects you.

  21. You don’t need his permission to break up with him.

    You don’t live! with him. You aren’t financially reliant on him.

    Text him to say “You are dumped, you loser, I never want to see you again.” then block him on everything.

    Then go out with your friends to celebrate.

    If he approaches you call the police and say you are being harassed.

  22. But I haven't asked for forgiveness. And there wasn't official break up he just ran away so I went and focus on my things. I did message him like I said like twice but it was in January not now. I feel like he is being cruel.

  23. Unfortunately you need to change your situation right now then try to save again. Does he borrow money from you? Do you have to pay things he's supposed to pay?

  24. All the comments going on and on about honor killings are really something. People will fall for anything on here, no wonder there's so many fake posts.

  25. Why is it your job to do all the chores and do them to his specifications? Why aren’t the chores mutually agreed to both schedule and quality? Why isn’t he doing these chores?

    Sit down and have a conversation with him. Draw up a chore schedule and agreement about ‘quality.’ For example vacuum once a week. Also, your chores, your method. Then if he nitpicks you about stuff, just tell him ‘nope, I vacuum once a week. If you want to sweep in between, you know where the broom is.’

    If that doesn’t work, you could tey couples counseling. But honestly he sounds pretty awful and I would consider divorcing him.

  26. I immediately said I didn’t find this funny and I wasn’t going to laugh at this types of jokes. I’m saying I’ll talk with him cuz I’m not looking forward to dealing with this situation in the future.

  27. He is stomping all over your boundaries to try to manipulate you into an open relationship. This is a classic example of emotional manipulation:

    Make the victim (you) feel vested in the relationship. Agree to certain boundaries. Push the boundary until manipulator gets pushback from the victim. Reel back just enough to maintain the relationship. Repeat steps 2, 3, & 4 until manipulator gets what they want.

    You can either live! it and say at some point 'huh, psychRNkris was right' or end it now. Sorry.

  28. Just for future reference. Make sure you work on your own anxiety yourself, because you will meet others who will trigger it like she it. Our mental health is something we need to face ourselves & not expect our partners to not “trigger it” if they “really love you”.

    Its a mistake ive made myself & the aftermath of dealing with yourself is not fun.

  29. Jesus OP I’m sorry but what is wrong with you? You’re setting yourself up for a life of pain, she’s going to keep cheating, it’s in her nature. End this relationship and get therapy to work on your self-esteem issues, you’re better than this.

  30. So if you aren't interested in a relationship why does it matter?

    Some people pull of the being friends thing, depends on how they broke up and how they interact with each other. Unless you are more than talking I wouldn't worry about it. When you are actually relationship capable then have a discussion about it and ask to meet the ex.

  31. I had to have an emergency c section and nearly died. My son was very premature. Not going to lie if I was your wife you’d be done.

  32. Thank you so much for your response. And yeah, I’m feeling like I’ve been taken advantage of and used for attention and validation.

  33. If you like. I kept a journal for a year in my early 20s and re-reading it a few years later brought up those same emotions you described. I wish I hadn't lost it, but my life isn't worse off because I lost it.

    Do what you feel.

  34. so he is picking and choosing the rules he likes and doesnt like then. Feel free to bring that up and cut off the nookie, cuz that is a sin. Make sure he gets his own place away from you, he shouldn't be living with you without being married.

  35. Break up and move on.

    I only say this because he doesn't try to change.

    Either he has medical issues or mental issues relationship issues, but either way he is unwilling to work on it.

  36. Wow, sorry to hear. Stick to your guns. What you want matters too. She should really compromise on this and not make this all about her. I think she’s being unfair.

  37. Your mother loves you and cares about your safety. You should consider yourself lucky, many redditors would love to have family that gives a shit and is active in their lives as adults.

    Anti-social personality disorder is a scary one, there is no doubt about that. I used to be a care manager for people suffering from mental illness as well as substance abuse disorders. I managed the healthcare of a few patients with confirmed diagnosed anti-social personality disorder and let me just tell you, it is a hard diagnosis to actually get. The patients I had all were diagnosed because they did something extreme at a very young age, and were court ordered to be examined by a psychiatrist. I had access to all of their health records, including psychotherapy notes. I’m talking about stabbing their sibling because they were “curious” about pain, murdering the neighbors dog to take it apart like an experiment, and setting fires to their parents bedroom in the middle of the night.

    And this is as children

  38. He might feel like your communication style needs some work. And you might feel like he is being an overbearing asshole.

    The truth is likely somewhere in between.

  39. All these people freaking out about the tracking are being dramatic. My wife and I have life 360 and use it occasionally. It was originally for safety, but we probably use it more as a quick surrogate to calling the other and asking. It's just convenient. Calling op a stalker seems like a stretch to me. That said, if she's lying about her location, then yelling at you about tracking her is just blame shifting. Life 360 works for my wife and I because we have nothing to hide from each other. Do you want to be with someone you cant trust?

  40. this is just life bestie! you learned a lesson in a shit way but it happens to everyone. leave him and move on and learn from this.

  41. Well, that's typical immature illogical response.

    Statistics, studies all says that reading comprehension, in fact, requires actual reading.

    Learn to read.

  42. I've discussed stuff like that with him before and he's very resistant to it, he sees it as covering up the past, that's not what I want to do, I just want the relationship to be okay and move on, but he sees everything as a learning opportunity and to try and pretend it didn't happen is silly. I never faced my past until I was with him, and only because he encouraged me to, I was pretty level headed and reasonable before that, it wasn't until I was in a safe relationship/environment that I started to go down hill. I don't know what happened, one day I just switched and it was difficult not to see everything as aggression or an attack. Even my psychotherapist said that it seems that my brain doesn't have the flight or freeze response programmed in, I just go straight to fight. But he doesn't believe that's possible, he thinks that overall, everyone's brains are wired the same, even though he himself has PTSD. It's been really hard to cope with, my childhood was terrible, emotions were a bad thing to feel, I couldn't cry or my parents would beat me, trying to get out of that mindset is difficult, so when I feel the slightest negative emotion or I feel attacked I go straight to aggression, fight back, no matter the consequences, protect yourself. I struggle so much with trying to stay level when all I see is danger. He knows all of this. If I hadn't faced my past, I think I would've been okay, but I felt I needed to because he made me feel safe and convinced me it was okay to feel things. In my mind, my numbness was my safety, but now I feel everything and it does nothing but cause problems.

  43. So he’s never going to perform oral on you? Between that and his hypocrisy, seems like good reasons to breakup Imo

  44. okay, funniest dilemma i have heard in a while. this is like one of those teen anx sitcom or something.

  45. He did not defend you, he did not help you, he did not apologise to you-in fact he started to get angry at you-when it was him and his friends. This is not someone who cares about you.. dump him and you’ll never have to be in the same space as his friends

  46. There's a subtle difference between wanting to do something and feeling in the mood for something. Like, I can be in the mood for ice cream but ultimately not want it because I'm on a diet. Or I can want to clean my room, and do so, even though I'm not in the mood for it. He is probably trying to say he wasn't in the mood for sex, but he wanted to do it for you. You presumably didn't force him.

  47. majority of dildos are much too hard

    Completely an aside, but there are a huge variety of densities and firmnesses available now!

  48. I’m not shitty, I’m conflicted and in the middle of a confusing relationship. His views are beyond stupid but he treats me and everyone else in his life great and gets along with everyone. Thats why I took a double take a dated him for this long.

  49. For real. OP is fucking terrible in this. Yes, he said some shit when he was pissed off, but rather than telling him “I'm not having an abortion. I'm raising the kids,” she blocked him, and moved away. Then when she DID have the kids, she didn't tell him, and give him the opportunity to be in their lives. If I were him, I'd be fucking pissed.

  50. Have a serious talk with dad about not inviting guests without asking, your BF has every right to be mad, univited chaos was in his house yelling at him at 11pm while drunk.

  51. I feel for anyone claiming to be under 21, looking at their ID isn't a bad idea. Perhaps the snooping is wrong, but he need to know her date of birth. He shouldn't have gone on vacation without knowing. Imagine if she'd been 17, less than 2 years younger, crossing state lines with a minor? Yikes.

  52. You have a right to be upset at that, however it was better to communicate than just hang up. I suggest you two deal with it like adults instead of this whole ghosting thing. Otherwise, might as well call off the engagement and go your seperate way if you can't talk it out.

  53. She wasn't blackout drunk when she chose to lie about her cheating. Was the man 100% sober? If not, he couldn't give consent either.

  54. How old are the kids? When/ how did your wife find out that you had another kid in the world.

    Your wife is a jerk, and no matter what you all are going through, her lying about the kid is not and will never be OK. Your wife owes your son an apology for even letting him think this is on him.

    This situation is on you and your wife. You need to figure out how to blend your family. Your wife needs to learn how to care less about what others think.

  55. I’ve edited the original post to say it’s been 8 months after reading your reply.

    I’ve sort of mingled with his friends before we started dating and it’s never been more than friendly people I say a few words to. There are of course a few of his friends who I get along much better with, but most of them hang out together as a group more often than not.

  56. When the power dynamic disparity is as large as a 17 year old with a 24 year old, it's grooming.

    17 years old, you're concerned with graduating, what college to go to, etc.

    25 you're long gone with college if you went, a couple years deep into a career, concerned with rent, mortgage, car payments, and utilities.

    It's grooming.

  57. Seems to me she can’t take the time off else she could lose her job.

    Sometimes we have to find help outside of our friend/family group. If you need assistance to travel then I’d start looking for a caregiver. I’ve done it a few times.

  58. That's true we never know others intentions but the fact he is that old and he wants to meet her is creeping me out. I'm scared of the fact i wanna go back to r/sh and rant out to them. I don't have a firearm but i got in contact. Don't get me wrong I'm not a bad person but I've helped some people back then and they said they owe me and I'm afraid i have to go that far to keep her safe

  59. Men nearing 40 do not date women in their very early 20's because they think you'll make a super great, equal life partner. He's dating you because you're young, naive, and easy to manipulate and control.

  60. Men nearing 40 do not date women in their very early 20's because they think you'll make a super great, equal life partner. He's dating you because you're young, naive, and easy to manipulate and control.

  61. Hey, it's not about maintaining my lifestyle – I pay my way and we figure bills out proportionally. What I mean is I don't have much disposable income and live! paycheck to paycheck, so finding deposit etc for another place will be difficult.

  62. So he wants you to substitute your own brain and thoughts for his? Even though he is often feeding you inaccurate “facts” and has opposing views and opinions? Cool. Sounds like a gem. ?

    I’m not sure that it’s controlling behavior per se but he sure wants to be thought of as the authority on all things and doesn’t want to be challenged. Seems to me he should date some brain dead chick if he wants to blow in someone’s ear and change their mind.

    You’re intelligent and inquisitive and he finds that threatening so is making it out like it’s a character flaw. It isn’t. Being inquisitive and basing your opinions off of facts will take you a long way in life as a life long learner.

  63. They’ll understand. He’s incredibly selfish for an almost 30 year old and you seem more mature even though it’s usually swapped. Don’t make this decision because of “stuff” getting out once you move in is HARD. Don’t do it

  64. I went camping with some friends and one friend was starting this huge group chat and spamming it. People left and she got upset and told me, “how are people supposed to know what to bring?” Ummmm they are adults. A potluck in a remote area sounds like a nightmare. If people don’t come prepared, then they can drive an hour to the closest store and learn their lesson next time. When I made a surprise birthday party for my roommate, I texted my friends a picture of her with crappy colored text all over the photo saying the date, time, place, “BYOB but I’ll provide some drinks too”, and BYOD (dog). Even with that, people showed up…

  65. I don't feel it's my place. I don't know the guy that well tbh. And I don't know anything for sure. All I know is he definitely has strong feelings for her and he said he thinks the feelings are reciprocated.

  66. I don't understand how this is even a question for you. Break it down: he could literally be donating to any other charity. But he chose hers. Why?

    -Because he wants to remain in contact w her in any way he can

    -Because he has an ego and wants to impress her by throwing money at her

    -Because he's a control freak & needs to still have some sort of control over the situation

    -Because he's clinging to hope that she'll want him back

    -Because he's angry and bitter & this is his way of “showing her” that she can't just dump him & be rid of him, he's going to find a way to be in her life even after she tried to shut it down

    -Because he feels the need to tie himself to her as he is unable to completely let go & have no contact w her

    -Because he has a mental illness and can't see how strange it is to force himself into her life via a freakin charity

    -Because he's a stalker

    And none of those reasons make him seem like a normal, emotionally and mentally healthy, dateable person.

    Had they broken up amicably and remained friends, and he was donating to her charity, it'd be a lot different, but that's not the situation you described, so there's just nothing I can think of that would be a logical, normal reason.

  67. Fuck you have issues. Namely insanely high standards, dude told you a fucking joke to make you laugh, yeah he told you it was his to try impress you. Stop reading everything by damaged women on here, they'll have you thinking every little thing means someone is an axe murderer. Give the guy a fucking break Karen.

  68. Making you feel special, needed, desired, while she’s having marriage problems and being sex deprived.

  69. You’re mistaking explaining a complex situation with “excuses” he’s not some innocent victim if sex is all I’m good for bc I’m certainly not only interested in that.

  70. Yeah, actually. He's not obligated to do thar for you. He obviously doesn't care that much. Why are you pushing this? If you want a caregiver, get one.

  71. Yeah I told him to appreciate the opportunities his dad was giving him he ended up just making his dad look bad. Now that you put it into perspective he doesn’t bring anything to the table. :/

  72. The best time to get into therapy is before things get really dire. If you wait until you're at literal rock bottom, you are setting yourself up for a much harder road than necessary. Why wait? You're already clearly struggling quite a bit. Therapy is helpful whether you're experiencing a moderate amount of emotional pain or an extreme amount. The sooner you start the sooner you're moving toward a healthy self-image.

  73. It doesn’t sound like it but if there’s not a disability stopping her from living alone she shouldn’t need to live! with any of her children esp 1 that is planning to get married and start a family. I can see a few months or maybe even a year but she’s gotta get her own life. Is she able to stay at the apartment you guys are in now when you move?

  74. Ghost her. If you don't hear from her then you know it's over.

    Alternatively she's just not interested in seeing you so much.

  75. You do not know this person do not move in with them. You are right to feel weird about everything that went down. She seems very immature for 30 years old. I don’t know how you should proceed honestly. I met my gf on a dating app so I’m not completely oblivious to live! dating but we starting spending a lot of time irl together pretty quickly. I didn’t start living with her until like a year and 3 months of dating. And maybe I’m misinterpreting shit but the thing about how she was seemingly flirting with a 15 year old and said she was joking is pretty damn weird.

  76. Also an autistic person who has sex as a special interest – OP boyfriend is clearly inexperienced and more importantly a jerk.

    How it ACTUALLY works when two people are working on improving their sex life: talk about turn on, kinks, try to come up with good scenarios that work for both people, discuss during what you like, discuss afterwards what you may or may not like. No judgment with any of it.

  77. You've only been together two months. Of course she is going to value her friend more than you at this point. All her friends, probably. And I bet you do, too.

    But if this is something you aren't going to get past, break it off now. It's only been two months.

  78. You cannot live! his life for him. Nothing is going to change unless he decides he wants to change, and he has decided that he doesn’t want to change. That’s why you don’t know how to help him—there is no way to help him, not as things stand.

    You feel guilty for leaving him because his life is unhappy, and you don’t want to make things worse. But let’s change the focus here: what about YOUR life? What about the things that make YOU feel happy? What about YOUR wants and needs? You’re wringing your hands on his behalf because you care about him and want to be a good partner. Is he doing the same for you? And before you answer, I want you to stop and think, “Does this change how he threatened to murder me? Does this nice thing change the fact that my life might be in danger?”

    Let’s change the focus again. He’s got no job, little family, and claims to be depressed. Do these factors make it permissible for him to threaten your life? I suspect you’re going to say here, “No, of course not.” Ok, so act on that. He did an extremely inexcusable thing—respond in kind. Otherwise, you’re sending the message that he can threaten your life with no consequences.

    You say that he’s never hit you before, but you also say that he scares you. What is your guarantee that he won’t escalate to violence? What is your guarantee that he won’t try to kill you? Are you really, truly willing to gamble your life on that possibility?

  79. It’s been two weeks, it’s OK to grieve the awesome future you thought you were building before picking yourself up to start building the awesome future you will have.

  80. Came across this term yesterday from another comment. Will definitely find a therapist and see if it is really what it is, or something else

  81. Yeah, I'm sure she said she didn't know. She'd say that, wouldn't she? And you believed her – and, by extension, disbelieved your partner about how bad it was.

  82. I didn’t want to be divorced at 23. I wanted one marriage and my children to have a good dad. Obviously, I messed that up. And you’re right! He does nothing but lie and deny I should’ve never trusted him when he said he stopped or that he was changed

  83. Be rock solid and reliable.

    No more party, drinking and drugs. Time to be the hot working father of 2 you need to be.

    Be a source of strength and not problems.

  84. This is a blessing. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth, you’re so young and he’s giving you the perfect out. Take your half and go live! your best life.

  85. No breaks never work. Sound like you dont really like him much if your going to break up because of his mom, shes a bitch let her be one she doesnt have the power to control him (or maybe hes depending on her but shes abusive) in which case he should leave. Talk to him about it if you cant see him because of her.

  86. Yes, I am.

    Your relationship dynamics have no place within the workplace – this includes work drinks with colleagues where it’s not culturally acceptable to bring a partner or spouse.

    I’m not sure why this is hard to grasp.

  87. I would drink every night to cope with the stress of taking care of my grandmother and the fact we were having money issues. I was also diagnosed with ppd

  88. Yeah I just don’t know how to tell her if she does come back, and I feel like by the time I’m over her she will probably try to talk to me.

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