As an animal lover, I can't even read the rest. Leave him immediately. I can not even believe this is a question. First get the kitten away and then you get a way. People that abuse animals should be in jail. Take the kitten to a doctor.
you keep saying “IT’s” not about this, “IT’s” not about that. what is IT, exactly? your issue?? so ITs not about a specific brand, ITs not about being real gold or not, ITs not about price… what is IT about?!
Plenty of stories out there of people who say they have the “perfect partner” or something along those lines but are perfectly willing to cheat because of their own flaws. Shall we blame the partners for those situations and be okay with that shitty behavior?
Anyway, now you know what's up, and you should be aware.
Are you sure he’s staying at his mothers? Either way you disregarded his red flags early on with this guy and this is the result. He is not BF, fiancé, husband, daddy, or any type of relationship material. Document the neglect and get full custody and child support. He is not wanting to be in your and your child’s life. You need to accept it and and focus on protecting your child. Let go of your neediness for a guy, a toxic one at that.
It’s because this story is from a woman’s pov. So comments are defending her at all costs. Reverse the situation and holy shit the boyfriend would be getting it in these comments.
Personally, I wouldn't want to date anyone I work with. But also, am curious why you haven't heard any of this from them before, even in passing if he is as bad as they claim.
Generally good points. I would just maybe say be very careful with advising someone to get therapy. I am a therapist. I believe in therapy and that a lot of people can use it. But it doesn’t feel great to be told by someone they think you should go to therapy.
You’ve been together for a year… I think youse should be a bit more serious than just seeing eachother but either way he shut em down.. I think you just need to talk about how seriously he sees this relationship at this point in time.. I don’t mean in like an accusatory way, more so just a deep conversation about where youse see this going and if he’s taking it seriously
Since you and a few others aren't truly grasping what the issues are here, let's break it down.
You don't communicate the fact you're giving another coworker home, especially one of the opposite sex. You kept that from her until she had to find out through a text message. It's not just an 8 minute ride–it's an 8 minute detour from your normal route–that's 8 extra minutes added onto however long it already takes you to get home those three nights a week that you give her a ride. This isn't something that has just happened once or twice. Per your words: I give her a ride to her place after work. Not everyday, although it is three times a week. That implies that this has become a routine. So, yes, you are in fact, spending one on one time with her three times a week. Your wife has expressed her discomfort and her boundary. You're choosing to ignore those. You don't see an issue there, but your wife does. You don't think it's a problem, but your wife does. You thought this was so small that you didn't think she needed to know. You were not being transparent with her, which is probably why this is becoming a bigger issue than it would have been if you would have been upfront and had respect for her in the beginning to let her know. There's a serious lack of respect and communication between you if you couldn't even find it in you to give her a quick call or a quick chat at home to let her know about you giving this woman a ride home after work three days a week.
Would it have been an issue if you had just brought it up to her from the beginning? Doubtful. Not unless she's already had reasons not to trust you. The lack of transparency, respect, and communication? That's what has made it into such an issue.
A grown man doesn't need a wingman. Also, there are several types of “wingmanning”. One is to talk up the guy. The other is to be someone who will hit on/hang out with the girl's friend. If they were meeting with a group of girls, I'm guessing he was the second type.
And frankly, after being weird, lying, talking about them being hot, and also doing all this for a dude who just lost his fiance because he cheated on her? Did he need your boyfriend's help to fuck THAT girl?
idk if she would take accountability but i also feel if i go no contact, the same way she’s ignored my siblings attempts to reach out, mine will be ignored too. i worry that if i go NC, we will never speak again. and as frustrating as it can be to deal with her, i really do think she needs support not another kid she can’t talk to, but this is starting to rlly mentally impact me sk idk what the best course of action is rn. thanks for the insight ?
I’d ask to see him again. When you see him, just tell him your expectations in a relationship. Tell him you understand if it’s different from what he’s experienced before and come to a compromise
She's not wrong that you're still in recovery from a breakup and that's a terrible time to make big decisions. But the only even cursory nod you've given here to her feelings being valid is that you “don't think she's opposed”, that's hardly a ringing endorsement. You really need to consider the possibility that she's just not interested in dating you and that this is way she's keeping you at arm's length. Just because you think romantically about her doesn't mean she feels the same way about you. If you want to preserve this friendship you'll stop harassing her about this. You've asked the question and you've gotten your answer. Now just stop it.
Yeah I think so I’m a bit shallow on this. I’ve been stressed and not having enough sleep lately so I was looking forward for v-day for something and I’m flipping it out on him. Thank you though appreciate it.
I know what you're going through. Something breaks when you're 100% in love with someone and they cheat. You never quite return to who you were, but talking to your ex makes if feel like there could be something. You WANT to regain what was lost and that connection to her makes it feel like there could be something, some tiny hope. It's not regaining her, it's regaining what broke in you.
I'm sorry, but that's never coming back. But you can become more than what you were, different than what you were. But you can only do that if you cut off ties with the person keeping the wound open.
I know I'm not answering your question, but I'd like for you to move on a better place for yourself. You're possibly a backup, you're also possibly assuaging her guilt for what she did, the fact that you still talk to her makes what she did not quite as bad in her mind.
At some point in life you will want ti have your own romantic partner. Naturally the amount of contact you have with your female friend you have feelings for is completely at odds with this.
The way it is right now you are emotionally locked into this friendship. However at some point in the future you will either you decide it is unhealthy and distance yourself from her, or she will find someone else to ve her proper partner. This will not last.
In conclusion, you should tell her you have caught feelings for so you don't know if you can continue your relation. This has the benefit of letting her react to this information which should make it easier for you to make decision.
She might reciprocate your feelings, in which case she MUST leave her bf asap.
She might understand it's better for you to limit your contact. This should be healthy for both of you in the long term.
She might be ambivalent, give no response or try to retain the status quo regardless. Obviously you can't agree with it and will have to move on, even though it will be painful with her attempting to retain your relation as it is.
True :/ I talked to him. He did think I was being genuinely rude. And he admitted that he knew I was upset after stepping on the scale so he knew saying that would hurt me. I guess it was just a whole miscommunication but it still stings
To the F: I would have walked out and never spoken to you again if your dad spit in my face and you didn’t immediately stand up for me. Your boyfriend seems like the only mature person involved.
a while back I heard a person tell a story in which they repeatedly put themselves in harm's way and deliberately choose to associate with people who truly did not care for them, but it was a funny story.
i had to ask why they kept putting themselves in these terrible situations and they matter-of-factly responses with: “I was at a point in my life where I felt like I didn't deserve to be treated well.”
Does that sound like you? Because that sounds like you.
No I used him for monetary gain, never my children. If I was I would have made sure they were both his instead of being with both thinking he wouldn’t notice. I just wanted my kids to grow up rich tbh and I didn’t think he would find out they weren’t his, I never even fully knew until my son started looking the spitting image of his father (really really blonde hair and his blue eyes) and unlike me and my husband who are both brunettes and his hair I’d close to black and he has dark eyes so my son looked his polar opposite.
Yes I’d be fine. My bus ride comes with a donation as well. My social media is private and I don’t plan on making it a thing on there, if I do post anything. I’m not a regular user.
Just the way you put it here is great. . “ while I love him, and like his partner and kids – they're not my family? And that that's okay, it doesn't change how I feel about them.”
Maybe you can add you’re glad they’re in his life. And you’re sorry if alex heard that as a rejection. But it will pass….
Also you can see them like “extended family” similar to your father’s relationship to your in laws but not sharing food level. There are different levels of family. Closeness is also about the history we have with people. Maybe in 15 years this will change.
And tell him he doesn’t have to indulge his wife’s tantrums 🙂 JK
Dude… she straight-up had a threesome with these two then regretted it, hoping it would never be brought up, but they spilled the beans and she's now panicking. It's quite evidently trickle truth.
Herpes is just fucking cold sores. The general state of sex education in this thread is abysmal. Half of sexually active people will contract an STI of some form by the age of 25.
Do you know why doctors don't put herpes tests in the general panel unless asked? It's because it's not a big deal medically. Passing on the common cold is more life threatening.
Despite the fact that medically it is not a big deal, people FREAK THE FUCK OUT about it (see: this thread). Herpes is a nothing-burger inflated to the status of Some kind of fucking mummy's curse. People act like they've contracted syphilis and their genitals are going to fall off.
Turns out it isn't that bad (80% of people in fact are completely asymptomatic), it's just that the majority of Americans have the sex ed level of a European preteen and are marinated in purity culture.
I hope OP dumps his girlfriend and goes on to be single the rest of his life. Then OPs girlfriend can find a partner who is mentally mature enough to handle the STI equivalent of the sniffles. (Then again, I hope the same for anyone who spends time in the fucking cesspit of misinformation and mental illness that is this subreddit).
I'm not upset or angry. I called out your biased opinion. That took no anger from me. I'm making an observation based off how you approached the situation. Also, from the story, OP said he texted her after calling her a hypocrite. Not sure where you saw he yelled at her. Maybe change your outlook on the younger generation who, obviously, will have new boundaries compared to the times when you were dating.
I hadn’t considered it from this angle. He does have some dislike of crowds – we once went to a theme park on a holiday weekend and he was really stressed by the number of people and refused to wait in line for any of the rides. I’ve always thought it was just a personality quirk but perhaps professional help would be beneficial.
You aren't going to forget that.
As an animal lover, I can't even read the rest. Leave him immediately. I can not even believe this is a question. First get the kitten away and then you get a way. People that abuse animals should be in jail. Take the kitten to a doctor.
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you keep saying “IT’s” not about this, “IT’s” not about that. what is IT, exactly? your issue?? so ITs not about a specific brand, ITs not about being real gold or not, ITs not about price… what is IT about?!
Plenty of stories out there of people who say they have the “perfect partner” or something along those lines but are perfectly willing to cheat because of their own flaws. Shall we blame the partners for those situations and be okay with that shitty behavior?
Anyway, now you know what's up, and you should be aware.
Are you sure he’s staying at his mothers? Either way you disregarded his red flags early on with this guy and this is the result. He is not BF, fiancé, husband, daddy, or any type of relationship material. Document the neglect and get full custody and child support. He is not wanting to be in your and your child’s life. You need to accept it and and focus on protecting your child. Let go of your neediness for a guy, a toxic one at that.
If you think sex is a “chore” and divorce and therapy are off the table….. maybe you should start doing your chores because it isn’t fair to him.
His ex is also 24yo now they're both in the same age
Try cucumbers instead.
I think you should let them be and continue to work on your mental health.
Buy him your brand. I use so called ladies deodorant because the musky smell of the male variety makes my asthma react.
It’s because this story is from a woman’s pov. So comments are defending her at all costs. Reverse the situation and holy shit the boyfriend would be getting it in these comments.
Personally, I wouldn't want to date anyone I work with. But also, am curious why you haven't heard any of this from them before, even in passing if he is as bad as they claim.
Generally good points. I would just maybe say be very careful with advising someone to get therapy. I am a therapist. I believe in therapy and that a lot of people can use it. But it doesn’t feel great to be told by someone they think you should go to therapy.
I did it…and instantly regretted it ?
Thank you, you’re right. I’m gonna block him on all platforms and hope he stays away.
How is a guy that you barely know, because all he wants is sex or to pout about sex for 2 years the love of your life?
So discuss it afterwards. I never said to Meet her head on.
I would address it immediately though. I don’t like being talked to this way, it’s a massive problem.
As if his butt would smell any better. That said, if he's not respecting your safe word then kick him to the curb.
What do you mean “if”? How much more do you want to take before you realise that now IS the time?
You’ve been together for a year… I think youse should be a bit more serious than just seeing eachother but either way he shut em down.. I think you just need to talk about how seriously he sees this relationship at this point in time.. I don’t mean in like an accusatory way, more so just a deep conversation about where youse see this going and if he’s taking it seriously
My guess is that he's a NiceGuyTM rather than a guy who's nice, because he's most definitely not nice.
I strongly susoect the ex has had trauma from a family member
Yeah, your boyfriend sucks. He is a really really bad guy.
You are too sensitive…
I agree… Go find someone that is less sensitive… Bye
Question… Why did you have sex with him in the morning?
Since you and a few others aren't truly grasping what the issues are here, let's break it down.
You don't communicate the fact you're giving another coworker home, especially one of the opposite sex. You kept that from her until she had to find out through a text message. It's not just an 8 minute ride–it's an 8 minute detour from your normal route–that's 8 extra minutes added onto however long it already takes you to get home those three nights a week that you give her a ride. This isn't something that has just happened once or twice. Per your words: I give her a ride to her place after work. Not everyday, although it is three times a week. That implies that this has become a routine. So, yes, you are in fact, spending one on one time with her three times a week. Your wife has expressed her discomfort and her boundary. You're choosing to ignore those. You don't see an issue there, but your wife does. You don't think it's a problem, but your wife does. You thought this was so small that you didn't think she needed to know. You were not being transparent with her, which is probably why this is becoming a bigger issue than it would have been if you would have been upfront and had respect for her in the beginning to let her know. There's a serious lack of respect and communication between you if you couldn't even find it in you to give her a quick call or a quick chat at home to let her know about you giving this woman a ride home after work three days a week.
Would it have been an issue if you had just brought it up to her from the beginning? Doubtful. Not unless she's already had reasons not to trust you. The lack of transparency, respect, and communication? That's what has made it into such an issue.
A grown man doesn't need a wingman. Also, there are several types of “wingmanning”. One is to talk up the guy. The other is to be someone who will hit on/hang out with the girl's friend. If they were meeting with a group of girls, I'm guessing he was the second type.
And frankly, after being weird, lying, talking about them being hot, and also doing all this for a dude who just lost his fiance because he cheated on her? Did he need your boyfriend's help to fuck THAT girl?
As of right now I wouldn't call him a friend
As of right now I wouldn't call him a friend
You are worried about the wrong thing.
idk if she would take accountability but i also feel if i go no contact, the same way she’s ignored my siblings attempts to reach out, mine will be ignored too. i worry that if i go NC, we will never speak again. and as frustrating as it can be to deal with her, i really do think she needs support not another kid she can’t talk to, but this is starting to rlly mentally impact me sk idk what the best course of action is rn. thanks for the insight ?
I’d ask to see him again. When you see him, just tell him your expectations in a relationship. Tell him you understand if it’s different from what he’s experienced before and come to a compromise
She's not wrong that you're still in recovery from a breakup and that's a terrible time to make big decisions. But the only even cursory nod you've given here to her feelings being valid is that you “don't think she's opposed”, that's hardly a ringing endorsement. You really need to consider the possibility that she's just not interested in dating you and that this is way she's keeping you at arm's length. Just because you think romantically about her doesn't mean she feels the same way about you. If you want to preserve this friendship you'll stop harassing her about this. You've asked the question and you've gotten your answer. Now just stop it.
Yes it is very common to do check up texts to let the other person know your thinking of them and still alive! It’s a good thing! Cherish it.
I just sent him a message that says that. He’s read it, but didn’t say anything yet.
How tall are you?
Yes, I don’t want to create a weird dynamic around sex.
Yeah I think so I’m a bit shallow on this. I’ve been stressed and not having enough sleep lately so I was looking forward for v-day for something and I’m flipping it out on him. Thank you though appreciate it.
There is ZERO good in this for you.
I know what you're going through. Something breaks when you're 100% in love with someone and they cheat. You never quite return to who you were, but talking to your ex makes if feel like there could be something. You WANT to regain what was lost and that connection to her makes it feel like there could be something, some tiny hope. It's not regaining her, it's regaining what broke in you.
I'm sorry, but that's never coming back. But you can become more than what you were, different than what you were. But you can only do that if you cut off ties with the person keeping the wound open.
I know I'm not answering your question, but I'd like for you to move on a better place for yourself. You're possibly a backup, you're also possibly assuaging her guilt for what she did, the fact that you still talk to her makes what she did not quite as bad in her mind.
Cut ties, move on. Your life will be better.
Source: Me…who did something similar. I
At some point in life you will want ti have your own romantic partner. Naturally the amount of contact you have with your female friend you have feelings for is completely at odds with this.
The way it is right now you are emotionally locked into this friendship. However at some point in the future you will either you decide it is unhealthy and distance yourself from her, or she will find someone else to ve her proper partner. This will not last.
In conclusion, you should tell her you have caught feelings for so you don't know if you can continue your relation. This has the benefit of letting her react to this information which should make it easier for you to make decision.
She might reciprocate your feelings, in which case she MUST leave her bf asap.
She might understand it's better for you to limit your contact. This should be healthy for both of you in the long term.
She might be ambivalent, give no response or try to retain the status quo regardless. Obviously you can't agree with it and will have to move on, even though it will be painful with her attempting to retain your relation as it is.
I hear you but people do.
True :/ I talked to him. He did think I was being genuinely rude. And he admitted that he knew I was upset after stepping on the scale so he knew saying that would hurt me. I guess it was just a whole miscommunication but it still stings
To the F: I would have walked out and never spoken to you again if your dad spit in my face and you didn’t immediately stand up for me. Your boyfriend seems like the only mature person involved.
a while back I heard a person tell a story in which they repeatedly put themselves in harm's way and deliberately choose to associate with people who truly did not care for them, but it was a funny story.
i had to ask why they kept putting themselves in these terrible situations and they matter-of-factly responses with: “I was at a point in my life where I felt like I didn't deserve to be treated well.”
Does that sound like you? Because that sounds like you.
No I used him for monetary gain, never my children. If I was I would have made sure they were both his instead of being with both thinking he wouldn’t notice. I just wanted my kids to grow up rich tbh and I didn’t think he would find out they weren’t his, I never even fully knew until my son started looking the spitting image of his father (really really blonde hair and his blue eyes) and unlike me and my husband who are both brunettes and his hair I’d close to black and he has dark eyes so my son looked his polar opposite.
Yes I’d be fine. My bus ride comes with a donation as well. My social media is private and I don’t plan on making it a thing on there, if I do post anything. I’m not a regular user.
You're not an adult. You're a teenager living at home and dependent on Mom. If you want to be an adult, you can't be a dependent. So pick one.
Just the way you put it here is great. . “ while I love him, and like his partner and kids – they're not my family? And that that's okay, it doesn't change how I feel about them.”
Maybe you can add you’re glad they’re in his life. And you’re sorry if alex heard that as a rejection. But it will pass….
Also you can see them like “extended family” similar to your father’s relationship to your in laws but not sharing food level. There are different levels of family. Closeness is also about the history we have with people. Maybe in 15 years this will change.
And tell him he doesn’t have to indulge his wife’s tantrums 🙂 JK
“Nothing happened.”
“Nothing happened.”
“Something happened.”
“Nothing happened.”
“It was just a kiss.”
“Then we stopped.”
Dude… she straight-up had a threesome with these two then regretted it, hoping it would never be brought up, but they spilled the beans and she's now panicking. It's quite evidently trickle truth.
I strongly suggest that you get therapy.
Don’t settle for a guy who isn’t generous! It’s not so bad being single.
Change the duvet. Actually, what is a duvet? Lol
Herpes is just fucking cold sores. The general state of sex education in this thread is abysmal. Half of sexually active people will contract an STI of some form by the age of 25.
Do you know why doctors don't put herpes tests in the general panel unless asked? It's because it's not a big deal medically. Passing on the common cold is more life threatening.
Despite the fact that medically it is not a big deal, people FREAK THE FUCK OUT about it (see: this thread). Herpes is a nothing-burger inflated to the status of Some kind of fucking mummy's curse. People act like they've contracted syphilis and their genitals are going to fall off.
Turns out it isn't that bad (80% of people in fact are completely asymptomatic), it's just that the majority of Americans have the sex ed level of a European preteen and are marinated in purity culture.
I hope OP dumps his girlfriend and goes on to be single the rest of his life. Then OPs girlfriend can find a partner who is mentally mature enough to handle the STI equivalent of the sniffles. (Then again, I hope the same for anyone who spends time in the fucking cesspit of misinformation and mental illness that is this subreddit).
I'm not upset or angry. I called out your biased opinion. That took no anger from me. I'm making an observation based off how you approached the situation. Also, from the story, OP said he texted her after calling her a hypocrite. Not sure where you saw he yelled at her. Maybe change your outlook on the younger generation who, obviously, will have new boundaries compared to the times when you were dating.
You already know what to do, just have the courage to do it
She’s right. Getting put through school does not equate to marriage.
I meant to say sucked it up but I guess I curse a lot when texting so it changed lol. ***
He tells me if I say no hes taking it anyway so I just keeo quiet
I hadn’t considered it from this angle. He does have some dislike of crowds – we once went to a theme park on a holiday weekend and he was really stressed by the number of people and refused to wait in line for any of the rides. I’ve always thought it was just a personality quirk but perhaps professional help would be beneficial.